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Make Double opt-in an In-built feature

  1. last year

    Currently Double opt-in can be achieved by following the method in this blog post.
    https://www.mautic.org/blog/creating-a-double-opt-in-email-campaign/

    However other major players in the industry have a simple, One press 'Button' on their forms to validate the user email.

    This can be a huge time saver for many novice users like me and keep our lists clean and useful!

    Thanks for the great service!
    Pramod George

  2. dbhurley

    23 Dec 2015 Administrator

    This is definitely a great suggestion. Thanks for suggesting it "officially" :) We'll have to look into how we would add it as an option. Keep the ideas coming!

  3. alexb

    28 Jun 2016 Suspended

    @dbhurley
    Simple: Add a new option to actions.
    Right now, actions can only change points and that's it.
    What's needed is an option that (instead of or additionally to changing points) will also do something like moving the contact to a different list or adding a new tag etc.

    And: That action needs to happen when the contact CLICKS a specific link. (not when they visit a specific URL)

  4. alexb

    28 Jun 2016 Suspended

    @dbhurley
    The reason why it's important that this new action is triggered by clicking a specific link (and NOT by visiting a web page) is this:
    When a contact visits a web page he/she might have JavaScript disabled by default and the tracking pixel might be getting blocked by an ad blocker.
    In that case visiting a page won't register anything.
    But clicking a tracking link always will register the click.

    And this isn't a very uncommon scenario either.
    The NoScript add-on in Firefox is installed by over 2 million users
    and Adblock and uBlock are installed by over 20 million users.

  5. @alexb In that case visiting a page won't register anything.
    But clicking a tracking link always will register the click.

    And this isn't a very uncommon scenario either.
    The NoScript add-on in Firefox is installed by over 2 million users
    and Adblock and uBlock are installed by over 20 million users.

    If that's the case, the link won't be tracked either. A link is just redirect with either a pixel fire or load of javascript while redirecting. It'll get blocked too if it's in any of the 3rd party filters.

    -image-

  6. alexb

    28 Jun 2016 Suspended

    Good catch, @MxyzptlkFishStix !
    But in that case, the user at least gets a full-screen notification that he/she needs to approve it in this case.
    However, that isn't really necessary.
    You could have a simple PHP redirect that would register the click WITHOUT the use of any JavaScript or image tracking pixels.

    As far as I know, there's absolutely no need to use either JavaScript or image tracking for tracking a link click!
    I bet a dead simple 5-line PHP function can do the job without triggering any ad blockers.

  7. I'd like to see this configurable so double opt-in can be applied dynamically based on the contact.

    For example: I don't want double opt-in for suppliers, existing customers, or new subscribers from certain countries, but I want to enforce it for countries that have laws requiring it.

  8. I also need double opt in to comply to COPPA requirements on sites that are child oriented.

  9. I have seen this being promised for version 1.1. but that was over a year ago. This is THE requirement for me to use Mautic because I have to comply with European Laws.
    All major (and minor) autoresponder have an 'out of the box' procedure for this...

  10. I agree this should be a built-in feature for lots of the reasons provided here.

    I'd also suggest that the built-in feature, which may include email address as a URL param, may also include a URL param that is a hash of the URL params, which the server can use to avoid processing the confirmation if there has been any tampering.

    For countries with compliance requirements, this can log all the appropriate data fields, too, which would open Mautic to be considered by many more potential users.

  11. We look forward for this feature. Hope you will make it soon.

  12. 10 months ago

    + 1 for this feature

  13. 7 months ago

    I'm using uBlock Origin and what said @alexb is true. I'm able to use the double opt-in with Infomaniak or MailChimp. It would be great to make a PHP redirect.

  14. Edited 7 months ago by MxyzptlkFishStix

    This isn't rocket science people. Quit thinking of Mautic as a simple autoresponder when you can do so much more.

    Create two segments (Pending & Confirmed).
    Under the Filter tab, add a Tag filter with a tag including pending for the Pending segment and confirmed for the Confirmed segment.
    Create an Remote URL Asset to a page you designate as email confirmation page.
    Create a Standalone form.
    Add an action to Modify Contact's Tags. Add Tag pending.
    Add an action to Send Email To Contact
    Create an email and add the Remote URL Asset token as your confirmation link.
    Create a campaign with the Pending segment as the source.
    Add Download Assets decision.
    Select Remote URL Asset.
    Add Modify Contact's Tag.
    Remove Pending Tag. Add Confirmed Tag.

    For other campaigns, you can use the Confirmed segment as your source as you know that it contains confirmed contacts.

  15. 6 months ago
    Edited 6 months ago by PeterTL

    @MxyzptlkFishStix This isn't rocket science people.

    It definitely is not. But the solution (doing it via a campaign) has one huge downset: if someone asks to be removed from the list by accident and wants to be on it again, the campaign does not work. As of now, campaign actions are loggend and I don't see a way to push a contact through a campaign twice.

  16. https://github.com/thirdset/ThirdSetMauticResetBundle

    Google is your friend.

  17. @MxyzptlkFishStix Google is your friend.

    Who needs Google as a friend when he can have @MxyzptlkFishStix. Thanks for this great hint, I was not aware of that.

 

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